Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. I don’t hate the PAC. Likes. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. 7. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. Colorado feels like they are on an island and being pushed out. “Pac12 fans should redirect their anger at the B10 and USC and UCLA. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. Take it with a grain of salt-not my usual source. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. ”Log in. Jul 12. This will be my last tweet for a bit. Likes. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. 1. ”“@IceDevilCA @TheAPBerry I was meaning had the second ACC raid not occurred. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). @MHver3. But it’s looking like B12 needs to make the next move. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. " / Twitter. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. Baylor is too. MHver3. MHver3 @MHver3. 251. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. ”Log in. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. 06 Mar 2023 18:13:11Log in. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. I don’t think that’s an option for us. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. But I would be remiss to not leave a parting gift. @MHver3. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. @MHver3. $320m per year for 12 years. I’m packing it up. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. The Big 10 should just bring in all the schools in the Pac 10 as a Western division. Likes. 5m. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. ”Some drips of info hitting the bucket. MHver3 @MHver3. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). @MHver3. 12:57 PM · Jul 27, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone Sorry for deleting the previous tweet. 23. @MHver3. Offering to join in football only at 50% of a full share of revenue after the buy in period. “I’m going to go out in on a limb here and predict that the 2022 back yard brawl will have a higher rating than any regular season ACC conference game last season. 7h. We’ve seen lots of tweets from reputable sources, but I’ve also seen a lot of interesting rumors from MHver3 on Twitter . Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. “And the killer for Utah is that even tough they are valued in the top half the one Power conference that they have a shot at may not really want them because they have a school in that market and lower valued schools like AZ are actually higher valued to B12. B12 has been told by sources from WSU and Oregon State that they will be submitting applications to the B12 pending how successful the first round of merger talks go. “@BobOThomson I mean it’d be a fun game to play on Saturdays 🤷🏻♂️. @CFBKnights. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. Sign up. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. The real question is who is number 2?”“Neat fact about the B12 tv extension: the can open it up for renegotiation if they add a minimum of 2 schools that play in the pacific time zone. 8 of them are. 21. Taking the four will crush the P12. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. Phillips had a call this afternoon with Kliavkoff and Yormark/Bowlsby about an alliance of the 3 conferences. If B10 is still shopping then that means NBC is getting aggressive with trying to get in on their contract and it’s driving $ higher. Log in. ”MHver3 @MHver3. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. and @Mountaineer_Ste. Miguel. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. Quote Tweets. Retweets. Replying to. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 6. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. No vote-just the general consensus during a call I’m told. 1. Replying to. “@AveCope Big12 believes it will be able to offer $36-40m with OR and WA plus control of Tier3 tv rights. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. That’s only 4 million less than SEC. OMG I was wrong. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. 6. GOR have teeth even for powerful schools. 19. That’s all I’ve got. 150 seconds to PACmidnight. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”Log in. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. Retweets. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. @MHver3 But when you factor in possible matchups, multiple time zones, and other data there’s a strong belief from media consultants that the 6 PAC schools joining B12 could see their collective value closer to the full $250m yearly that ESPN was willing to pay all 10 in a vacuum @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 If we receive applications from all 4 of the corners schools (we already have one from SDSU from last year) it’s likely we initially only invite 2 and then wait for tv negotiations to open up before adding whomever the other 2 will be. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. MHver3 @MHver3. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. ”@MHver3 · May 25. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. Replying to @MHver3. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. Once again it’s in the media a few days later:. 1. Amazon gets more first choice. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. @MHver3 Big12 is possibly only eyeing 4 of the 6 to stop at 16 for now. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. 2. ”Bedtime snippet: I’ve been exchanging DMs with someone employed at a P12 athletic department. Also a high ranking member of. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. MHver3 @MHver3. We aren’t privately funded like Stanford is. Retweets. Taking a small break from sharing. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. @MHver3. I don’t hate the PAC. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. The other 6 split the remaining 40% equally. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. Do you prefer to move to the B10 for the money that you really don’t need with Phil Knight’s checkbook-where you will play 2nd fiddle to many? Or do you prefer becoming the top dog in the B12 conference?”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. Yormark has a vision. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. GIF. In person. Houston and BYU applications are in. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. Log in. bob trollsby. “@RChalk94 But Washington and Oregon add $60+ million per year apiece to a tv deal when you look at the data” “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. Posted on 37 mins, V I P, User Since 8 months ago, User Post Count: 670. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. 1 — and for No. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. I said AAC (not ACC) invited PAC members. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. Stanford has not applied to the B12 but has reached out to gauge interest. Guess the state of AZ to BIG12 has died down though. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. Log in. And GK. As soon as I’m allowed to it’ll be up. We’ve spoiled schools with Tier3 independence. @MHver3. . Jeff “Jelly” Stacks“Juicy tidbit just coming in. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. @KStateKyle. 159. Oregon was the third choice as a. Factions have formed. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. Pitt actually did improve after the move. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. That’s it. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. 2. @MHver3. “@BobOThomson Yes. Still waiting on my main source to give me the go ahead to share. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. The other two have been flirting with B12 for years and few they are a better fit with B12 in culture and philosophy. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. Who stands to benefit the most?“@USFBullTampaBuc They should’ve built these a decade ago. 1 — and for No. Memphis and Boise(FB only) are definitely the front runners. I actually don’t want more western schools. 19. Learn more. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. ”Log in. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. 3. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. This person isn’t a high level employee and I’ve verified they are who they say they are. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. 4. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. Amazon gets more first choice. ·. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. 7. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. 9. Yormark has a vision. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. Likes. My source says B10 won’t expand until at least new commissioner has been hired but this option was discussed at a recent B10. The desire of B10 is to bring both Washington and Oregon into the fold but Fox is balking at overpaying for both west coast schools considering the actual value they bring. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. and @Mountaineer_Ste. My source can confirm Colorado is. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. MHver3 @MHver3. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. Army/Navy make the most sense from a. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. ”“My source just informed me that Arizona, Colorado, Utah, and Arizona State have applied for membership with the B12. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. Quote Tweets. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. You ready for this? Oregon/Washington 16. I’ve even called it that myself. Looks like their fate is in Amazon’s hands. Now it’s been twice verified. As did VT. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. and @TheAPBerry. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. ”“Going by remarks made at Pac12 media days by Oregon its looking like they are leaning into to shorter term offer from espn and unequal revenue sharing. We are indeed talking to Rich Rodriguez to return to WVU but as of now it’s only talks. 2. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. They are looking at 1. com. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. Quote Tweets. Murky version is: ducks are in a row but the can is getting kicked down the road. ”Log in. Ugh. Log in. Retweets. 4. March 7th. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. I’m definitely not giving up my CONFIDENTIAL sources. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ACC still has 2 blue bloods to B12’s 1. ”Hearing that Pac12 presidents have vehemently rejected 100% streaming proposal from apple. read image description. That’s all I’ve got. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Also heard from a source today that someone in Colorado leadership told B12 that if Apple was going to save the Pac12 it would’ve been announced today…My source (who is talking to an AD at a pac school) says the deal with Espn/Amazon is worth $220m a year. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. 6. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. Pac12 can file an injunction if they choose but it would be a slippery slope if they wanted to do that and suspend those teams. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. Previous offer for 24. Sounds like he expects a number of his current members to go else where. ”“Would a LHN converted into the B12 network, a 20 year Sugar Bowl contract and a guarantee of 8 SEC OOC games per year for 10 years be enough of a carrot for B12 to allow TXOU out early with only the exit fee penalty?”“Oregon and Washington want to wait out the 30 day window on the exclusive period for Fox and espn to renegotiate Pac12 contract before making a decision on B12 application. So not just a. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. BC, Wake, Cuse. At least for the next 6-8 years. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. But again, aside from Rutgers going to B10, Pitt had the most room for improvement. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox” MHver3 @MHver3 One final tidbit this afternoon:PAC is currently trying to be as attractive as they can while they see what their media rights could be if they stayed together. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. Something new that moves forward and forgets the past. It’s to actively pursue expansion and re-form the expansion committee. (Read full thread)”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Huge mistake. No one has control. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. Replying to. Their additions brought stability. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. 10:09 PM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. 1. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. OMG I was wrong. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. MHver3. There’s a catch. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. 13 Apr 2023 02:07:57 @MHver3 They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their best case to join on the field. @MHver3.